Comments on: New bias bill could make it easier to sue you http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/new-bias-bill-could-make-it-easier-to-sue-you/ Headlines and advice for the practicing recruiter Mon, 20 Jun 2011 04:03:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Carla http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/new-bias-bill-could-make-it-easier-to-sue-you/comment-page-1/#comment-15224 Carla Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:10:25 +0000 http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/?p=1996#comment-15224 I think the age issue has not been addressed by HR professionals. Do you notice that every job listed states either 2-5 years experience or 5-10 years experience. Although asking an applicant's age is ilegal other than if they are over 18, many job sites and company websites ask for high school or college graduation dates which make it difficult for anyone in their 40s or 50s to get a fair shake. I think the age issue has not been addressed by HR professionals. Do you notice that every job listed states either 2-5 years experience or 5-10 years experience. Although asking an applicant’s age is ilegal other than if they are over 18, many job sites and company websites ask for high school or college graduation dates which make it difficult for anyone in their 40s or 50s to get a fair shake.

]]> By: C.hall http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/new-bias-bill-could-make-it-easier-to-sue-you/comment-page-1/#comment-14298 C.hall Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:58:36 +0000 http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/?p=1996#comment-14298 It took awhile for the questioning of Tom and Jerry's comments. I am glad that there are true HR Professionals that know how to be professional. It took awhile for the questioning of Tom and Jerry’s comments. I am glad that there are true HR Professionals that know how to be professional.

]]> By: Michelle http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/new-bias-bill-could-make-it-easier-to-sue-you/comment-page-1/#comment-14200 Michelle Mon, 24 Aug 2009 14:20:42 +0000 http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/?p=1996#comment-14200 JT -- so true! JT — so true!

]]> By: Marlene http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/new-bias-bill-could-make-it-easier-to-sue-you/comment-page-1/#comment-14197 Marlene Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:36:05 +0000 http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/?p=1996#comment-14197 JT - You are right on . . . .!!!!! JT – You are right on . . . .!!!!!

]]> By: JT http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/new-bias-bill-could-make-it-easier-to-sue-you/comment-page-1/#comment-14069 JT Fri, 21 Aug 2009 22:02:31 +0000 http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/?p=1996#comment-14069 Hey Tom and Jerry, Chet is on point with his comments, as are Michelle and Jaden. It's opinions like Tom & Jerry's that make government intervention a necessity and a requirement, because there are some people who fly under the radar with biases that no one would ever detect - sounds like that might be the case with the two of you. If an applicant demonstrates they can do the job, pass all required pre-employment testing, that is the only thing that should matter - what they wear to work or which bathroom they use is none of anyone's business, unless of course you happen to spend more time in the bathroom then you do at your desk?? As for consequences??? I can assure you that NO ONE will ever forget the last 8 years of incompetence, and the mess it has created for this country to be felt for years and years to come. If Bill Clinton was impeached for a victimless crime, then this previous administration's actions rises to the level of criminal treason; the consequences of irresponsible behavior, arrogance, greed and lack of oversight in the financial sector alone has brought not only this country, but the entire world to the brink of financial disaster. Businesses offshoring jobs without any limits or oversight by the government put millions of Americans out of work, no income and no benefits, while executives walked away with billions of dollars of employees hard earned money. Tom and Jerry need to stop the cartoon fiction and get real! Hey Tom and Jerry,
Chet is on point with his comments, as are Michelle and Jaden. It’s opinions like Tom & Jerry’s that make government intervention a necessity and a requirement, because there are some people who fly under the radar with biases that no one would ever detect – sounds like that might be the case with the two of you. If an applicant demonstrates they can do the job, pass all required pre-employment testing, that is the only thing that should matter – what they wear to work or which bathroom they use is none of anyone’s business, unless of course you happen to spend more time in the bathroom then you do at your desk?? As for consequences??? I can assure you that NO ONE will ever forget the last 8 years of incompetence, and the mess it has created for this country to be felt for years and years to come. If Bill Clinton was impeached for a victimless crime, then this previous administration’s actions rises to the level of criminal treason; the consequences of irresponsible behavior, arrogance, greed and lack of oversight in the financial sector alone has brought not only this country, but the entire world to the brink of financial disaster. Businesses offshoring jobs without any limits or oversight by the government put millions of Americans out of work, no income and no benefits, while executives walked away with billions of dollars of employees hard earned money. Tom and Jerry need to stop the cartoon fiction and get real!

]]> By: Chet http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/new-bias-bill-could-make-it-easier-to-sue-you/comment-page-1/#comment-13637 Chet Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:02:55 +0000 http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/?p=1996#comment-13637 Tom - If you are in charge of HR then you are most definitely in the wrong business. Your distaste for our administration and obvious bias towards "these blessed individuals" is scary. No one is asking for special rights. Treat everyone equally and there should not be an issue. I'm afraid your comments can only lead one to believe that your biggest struggles are within yourself. Good luck! Tom – If you are in charge of HR then you are most definitely in the wrong business. Your distaste for our administration and obvious bias towards “these blessed individuals” is scary. No one is asking for special rights. Treat everyone equally and there should not be an issue. I’m afraid your comments can only lead one to believe that your biggest struggles are within yourself. Good luck!

]]> By: Jaden http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/new-bias-bill-could-make-it-easier-to-sue-you/comment-page-1/#comment-13530 Jaden Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:47:13 +0000 http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/?p=1996#comment-13530 Tom- With comments like your last one, is it any wonder a law like this has been in the works? Homosexual, transexual, bisexual, transgender . . . these people are already in the workplace, and just as many thrive as anyone else in the right atmosphere and are productive employees. If I were you, I'd work on the workplace treating everyone respectfully and equally now, or you may have some troubles when this does eventually become law. It also sounds like your bitterness toward the new administration, not just this one issue, may be clouding your judgement. Right on Michelle. Very eloquently put. Tom-
With comments like your last one, is it any wonder a law like this has been in the works? Homosexual, transexual, bisexual, transgender . . . these people are already in the workplace, and just as many thrive as anyone else in the right atmosphere and are productive employees. If I were you, I’d work on the workplace treating everyone respectfully and equally now, or you may have some troubles when this does eventually become law. It also sounds like your bitterness toward the new administration, not just this one issue, may be clouding your judgement.

Right on Michelle. Very eloquently put.

]]> By: Michelle http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/new-bias-bill-could-make-it-easier-to-sue-you/comment-page-1/#comment-13529 Michelle Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:33:38 +0000 http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/?p=1996#comment-13529 Joyce - agree. Unfortunately, legislation will not end discrimination, as we've already experienced despite Civil Rights 1964 and later. It has however improved employment conditions widely, but we have still a long way to go, after all that law is only about 45 years old. It may not be until the next generation that we finally see much greater progress in wiping out some discriminations. These things take a while because deep rooted ideas have to be "bred" out of society. Age discrimination is a big theme in today's world -- and it unfortunately lives well in the business world and with the recent ruling by the Supreme Court it has put a burden on the over 40 plaintiff to prove discrimination because of age. Perhaps we should have one sweeping legislation that addresses all characteristics that one may possess that would cause employers to discriminate. Employers may feel that hiring the obese would put too much of a burden on their health care costs? Perhaps that's another reason to support national health care reform. Joyce – agree. Unfortunately, legislation will not end discrimination, as we’ve already experienced despite Civil Rights 1964 and later. It has however improved employment conditions widely, but we have still a long way to go, after all that law is only about 45 years old. It may not be until the next generation that we finally see much greater progress in wiping out some discriminations. These things take a while because deep rooted ideas have to be “bred” out of society. Age discrimination is a big theme in today’s world — and it unfortunately lives well in the business world and with the recent ruling by the Supreme Court it has put a burden on the over 40 plaintiff to prove discrimination because of age. Perhaps we should have one sweeping legislation that addresses all characteristics that one may possess that would cause employers to discriminate. Employers may feel that hiring the obese would put too much of a burden on their health care costs? Perhaps that’s another reason to support national health care reform.

]]> By: Joyce http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/new-bias-bill-could-make-it-easier-to-sue-you/comment-page-1/#comment-13522 Joyce Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:51:26 +0000 http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/?p=1996#comment-13522 When will discrimination against overweight individuals be illegal? I would think that law should pass before some "transgender" law passes. Discrimination against fat folks is still widely tolerated. If we are going to end "discrimination" it should end against everyone, not just the chosen few. Educated, capable people with the skillset to perform the job should be given the opportunity no matter what color, religion, sexual orientation or size they are. Equal opportunity is supposed to be the American way, we were founded on that premise. When will discrimination against overweight individuals be illegal? I would think that law should pass before some “transgender” law passes. Discrimination against fat folks is still widely tolerated. If we are going to end “discrimination” it should end against everyone, not just the chosen few. Educated, capable people with the skillset to perform the job should be given the opportunity no matter what color, religion, sexual orientation or size they are. Equal opportunity is supposed to be the American way, we were founded on that premise.

]]> By: Michelle http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/new-bias-bill-could-make-it-easier-to-sue-you/comment-page-1/#comment-13481 Michelle Tue, 11 Aug 2009 23:13:17 +0000 http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/?p=1996#comment-13481 Unfortunately, history in this country as well as continuing subtle types of discrimination make it necessary that federal laws be passed making certain behaviors by employers unlawful. Regardless of whether someone in HR or the business thinks that this bill will be a hassle or cost money for training, it's obviously necessary that businesses have to be told right out "do not discriminate". Unfortunately, history in this country as well as continuing subtle types of discrimination make it necessary that federal laws be passed making certain behaviors by employers unlawful. Regardless of whether someone in HR or the business thinks that this bill will be a hassle or cost money for training, it’s obviously necessary that businesses have to be told right out “do not discriminate”.

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