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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;I was selling an alligator&#8217;: 10 dumbest excuses for missing work</title>
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		<title>By: SRHR</title>
		<link>http://www.hrrecruitingalert.com/i-was-selling-an-alligator-and-9-other-dumb-excuses-for-missing-work/comment-page-1/#comment-17058</link>
		<dc:creator>SRHR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are a LTC facility and &quot;burn out&quot; is a frequent reason for call-outs in our facility. We used to have Dept. heads that would ask &quot;what is the illness&quot; then when HIPPA started to be a big part of our lives I suggested the &quot;don&#039;t ask, don&#039;t tell&quot; policy. This means that when an employee calls in &quot;sick&quot; we take it at face value I mean come on! Have you ever asked someone &quot;whats wrong with you&quot; and they start giving you explicit details about their illness. EWWW! No thank you. 

We also implemented a new absenteeism policy which gives you eight unscheduled days a year if you miss nine your employment is terminated  this is with our without a Dr.&#039;s excuse. If the days are consecutive its one absence if there is even one day in between that is another absence, this has worked well for us and since we implemented the new attendance policy we have had a 15% improvement in attendance I realize this may not be a huge number to most of you however, we are a very small facility.

 I personally feel like if you are driving around seeing if your employee is &quot;playing hooky&quot; you have too much time on your hands I mean really who cares its not money out of your pocket its money the employee is losing and I totally agree with the post that said that time could be spent finding a replacement for the employee that called out.

Furthermore, do you really want to encourage your employees to come in sick, how much sense does that make? Do you really like the idea of blowing your nose, diarrhea vomiting or whatever may be going on with that person. Not me. On the other hand I know what it is like to have to work sick its miserable I am the entire payroll, and H/R dept. (like I said we are small) and I had phnemonia earlier in the year I was sick for six weeks in part because I came back to work before I was totally well and had a relapse.

We do believe in our employees and we do take their word when it comes to attendance. Bottom line it is up to the employee to follow the attendance policy if they want to waste those eight days farting around thats on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are a LTC facility and &#8220;burn out&#8221; is a frequent reason for call-outs in our facility. We used to have Dept. heads that would ask &#8220;what is the illness&#8221; then when HIPPA started to be a big part of our lives I suggested the &#8220;don&#8217;t ask, don&#8217;t tell&#8221; policy. This means that when an employee calls in &#8220;sick&#8221; we take it at face value I mean come on! Have you ever asked someone &#8220;whats wrong with you&#8221; and they start giving you explicit details about their illness. EWWW! No thank you. </p>
<p>We also implemented a new absenteeism policy which gives you eight unscheduled days a year if you miss nine your employment is terminated  this is with our without a Dr.&#8217;s excuse. If the days are consecutive its one absence if there is even one day in between that is another absence, this has worked well for us and since we implemented the new attendance policy we have had a 15% improvement in attendance I realize this may not be a huge number to most of you however, we are a very small facility.</p>
<p> I personally feel like if you are driving around seeing if your employee is &#8220;playing hooky&#8221; you have too much time on your hands I mean really who cares its not money out of your pocket its money the employee is losing and I totally agree with the post that said that time could be spent finding a replacement for the employee that called out.</p>
<p>Furthermore, do you really want to encourage your employees to come in sick, how much sense does that make? Do you really like the idea of blowing your nose, diarrhea vomiting or whatever may be going on with that person. Not me. On the other hand I know what it is like to have to work sick its miserable I am the entire payroll, and H/R dept. (like I said we are small) and I had phnemonia earlier in the year I was sick for six weeks in part because I came back to work before I was totally well and had a relapse.</p>
<p>We do believe in our employees and we do take their word when it comes to attendance. Bottom line it is up to the employee to follow the attendance policy if they want to waste those eight days farting around thats on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Judy - I&#039;ve had that &quot;bowling flu&quot;. Unlike other strains of flu, it specifically hits the hamstrings, gluts and lower back. Good news, however, no shots needed - just a comfy chair and a few gentle stretches!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Judy &#8211; I&#8217;ve had that &#8220;bowling flu&#8221;. Unlike other strains of flu, it specifically hits the hamstrings, gluts and lower back. Good news, however, no shots needed &#8211; just a comfy chair and a few gentle stretches!</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of our employees called in sick the day after bowling, which we called the bowling flu.  Fortunately, his attendance has improved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of our employees called in sick the day after bowling, which we called the bowling flu.  Fortunately, his attendance has improved.</p>
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		<title>By: SS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo Mary AZ - I agree wholeheartedly.  Just deal with it and move on.  There are more important things to worry about.  Mary, did you by any chance used to work for a software company in Concord, CA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo Mary AZ &#8211; I agree wholeheartedly.  Just deal with it and move on.  There are more important things to worry about.  Mary, did you by any chance used to work for a software company in Concord, CA?</p>
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		<title>By: ASAR</title>
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		<dc:creator>ASAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, that is suppose to be vacation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, that is suppose to be vacation</p>
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		<title>By: ASAR</title>
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		<dc:creator>ASAR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have sick and vaction days.  Depending on the position is how many vaction hours per month you get.  Everybody gets 8 hours of sick time per month.  In our HR office we never call or find out.  The departments are responsible for keeping up with that.  Then on timesheets or leave slips the department head will sign for verificaiton.  We only require doctor&#039;s note if the employee is sick for 40 or more consecutive hours.  So an employee can take 39 sick hours and we never have to have proof or ask them about being sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have sick and vaction days.  Depending on the position is how many vaction hours per month you get.  Everybody gets 8 hours of sick time per month.  In our HR office we never call or find out.  The departments are responsible for keeping up with that.  Then on timesheets or leave slips the department head will sign for verificaiton.  We only require doctor&#8217;s note if the employee is sick for 40 or more consecutive hours.  So an employee can take 39 sick hours and we never have to have proof or ask them about being sick.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Requiring a sick employee to come in and spread their germs is just dumb in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Requiring a sick employee to come in and spread their germs is just dumb in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary AZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary AZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 23:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EE&#039;s can be their own worst enemies...they do not have to tell why they are calling off...that they are sick and not coming in.  PERIOD.  Managers cannot question them about medical conditions, according to the ADA.  

On the listed best strategies, Managers need to be careful to be fair and consistent across the board when requesting Dr&#039;s notes.  If they miss even one, EVER they can be sued for discrimination, especially if the EE falls in any one of the protected classes...look out.  Calling the employee at home is not a good determinant either.  If they are sick, they could be medicated or sleeping and not hear the phone.  Being contacted at home could be construed as working, and salary employees can file a grievance or Wage and labor dispute for compensation for the day.  

Managers should just accept the fact that there are times when employees are going to call in and be off.  Pick your battles, is it really worth the effort to catch someone in a white lie?  Spend that time and effort finding a replacement for them for the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EE&#8217;s can be their own worst enemies&#8230;they do not have to tell why they are calling off&#8230;that they are sick and not coming in.  PERIOD.  Managers cannot question them about medical conditions, according to the ADA.  </p>
<p>On the listed best strategies, Managers need to be careful to be fair and consistent across the board when requesting Dr&#8217;s notes.  If they miss even one, EVER they can be sued for discrimination, especially if the EE falls in any one of the protected classes&#8230;look out.  Calling the employee at home is not a good determinant either.  If they are sick, they could be medicated or sleeping and not hear the phone.  Being contacted at home could be construed as working, and salary employees can file a grievance or Wage and labor dispute for compensation for the day.  </p>
<p>Managers should just accept the fact that there are times when employees are going to call in and be off.  Pick your battles, is it really worth the effort to catch someone in a white lie?  Spend that time and effort finding a replacement for them for the day.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re a pretty small company and went the PTO route years ago.  I&#039;m the entire HR department and I frankly don&#039;t have time to play detective and figure out if an employee is lying when they call in sick.  If you want a day off, take it. It&#039;s their PTO and as long as it doesn&#039;t cause a hardship to the mgr or dept, it&#039;s theirs to do with as they wish.

On a side note, let me share one of my most entertaining stories.  We had an employee who after     working a full two weeks and getting his first paycheck, suddenly became ill at lunchtime and had to go home.  I already had plans to take the afternoon off and was going to a nearby town with some friends where there were casinos.  You probably know how this ends.  We were walking down the street in this small town, and I see our employee walking in my direction.  I&#039;m thinking &quot;no, can&#039;t be!&quot; but it was indeed him.  When he saw me, well, I&#039;ve never actually physically watched the color drain from someone&#039;s face before.  He wouldn&#039;t make eye contact as we passed on the street but wouldn&#039;t that be enough for you to high tail it out of town?!  No, not him.  I ran into him 3 more times throughout the day, each incident becoming more and more awkward.  He finally approached me, reeking of alcohol, almost in tears and apologized....then pointed out how funny the entire incident was.  Yeah, hilarious.  He didn&#039;t show up for work ever again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re a pretty small company and went the PTO route years ago.  I&#8217;m the entire HR department and I frankly don&#8217;t have time to play detective and figure out if an employee is lying when they call in sick.  If you want a day off, take it. It&#8217;s their PTO and as long as it doesn&#8217;t cause a hardship to the mgr or dept, it&#8217;s theirs to do with as they wish.</p>
<p>On a side note, let me share one of my most entertaining stories.  We had an employee who after     working a full two weeks and getting his first paycheck, suddenly became ill at lunchtime and had to go home.  I already had plans to take the afternoon off and was going to a nearby town with some friends where there were casinos.  You probably know how this ends.  We were walking down the street in this small town, and I see our employee walking in my direction.  I&#8217;m thinking &#8220;no, can&#8217;t be!&#8221; but it was indeed him.  When he saw me, well, I&#8217;ve never actually physically watched the color drain from someone&#8217;s face before.  He wouldn&#8217;t make eye contact as we passed on the street but wouldn&#8217;t that be enough for you to high tail it out of town?!  No, not him.  I ran into him 3 more times throughout the day, each incident becoming more and more awkward.  He finally approached me, reeking of alcohol, almost in tears and apologized&#8230;.then pointed out how funny the entire incident was.  Yeah, hilarious.  He didn&#8217;t show up for work ever again.</p>
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		<title>By: SS</title>
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		<dc:creator>SS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 00:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Steve R - how productive is it to worry about why the employee called out?  Does it really make a difference?  People appreciate being respected and treated as adults.  As for calling off for bad weather... my priorities have changed a LOT over the years.  When I was single I would drive a go-cart with bald tires in a blizzard... I didn&#039;t think twice about it.  Now, I have kids and am the sole provider and don&#039;t want die in a car crash just to get to work and do some relatively unimportant paperwork that could wait until tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Steve R &#8211; how productive is it to worry about why the employee called out?  Does it really make a difference?  People appreciate being respected and treated as adults.  As for calling off for bad weather&#8230; my priorities have changed a LOT over the years.  When I was single I would drive a go-cart with bald tires in a blizzard&#8230; I didn&#8217;t think twice about it.  Now, I have kids and am the sole provider and don&#8217;t want die in a car crash just to get to work and do some relatively unimportant paperwork that could wait until tomorrow.</p>
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